Baytrill for 2 weeks, still no better.

emma10 · Post by **emma10** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:58 pm

Maxi has been on 1.2ml of baytrill for 2 weeks for making 'pidgeon noises' and the odd sneeze. Although the sneezing is alot better hes still making the noises. He seems to be worse at night but generally fine in himself.

Should I take him back?

And if I do is there any meds or anything I could suggest? I dont want to undermine the Vet as he is great, but I want Maxi back to his less bird and more ratty self!

kizzie123 · Post by **kizzie123** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:30 pm

id suggest adding doxycyline to the mix, will goes alongside baytril and im sure most members would advise along that route as it is very affective.

Goodluck

emma10 · Post by **emma10** » Tue May 03, 2011 3:25 pm

*bump* anymore ideas? Got him booked in for an hours time

spoiled_rat · Post by **spoiled_rat** » Tue May 03, 2011 3:32 pm

1.2ml is quite a high dose, what weight is he?

nette · Post by **nette** » Tue May 03, 2011 4:07 pm

if you do use doxy aswell make sure you give it an hour after the baytril

emma10 · Post by **emma10** » Tue May 03, 2011 4:12 pm

im not sure, the vet just said he was a 'good' weight last time! Little one responded well on 0.6 last time. Doesn't seem to be doin it for Max!

emma10 · Post by **emma10** » Tue May 03, 2011 6:17 pm

Maxi has been upped to 1.5 ml twice a day for a month plus I have to give him a powder called Bisolvon with his food.

RetroLemons · Post by **RetroLemons** » Tue May 03, 2011 6:22 pm

1.5ml is ridiculas! The ratio is 1KG to 1ml of Baytril.

That being split into two doses per day, so your now giving 3ml a day which is well for a very heavy rat!

It is possible the Baytril is ineffective agaisnt it in which case I would be trying a combination of the other AB's such as Doxy, Septrin, Ronaxon (sp?) etc

emma10 · Post by **emma10** » Tue May 03, 2011 6:40 pm

Hes on 2.5% baytreil if that is any help?

Im worried now, I dont think hes that big for a rat (but saying that I've only ever had 4 rats)

This was a different vet to our usual, but he seemed pretty clued up on myco etc

Not a great pic, but hes on the right, this was taken about 2 weeks ago.

ETA: hes not that huge is he?

spoiled_rat · Post by **spoiled_rat** » Tue May 03, 2011 6:43 pm

The dose is far too much.

RetroLemons · Post by **RetroLemons** » Tue May 03, 2011 6:47 pm

Hang on never mind its already been said!

emma10 · Post by **emma10** » Tue May 03, 2011 7:02 pm

I guess I should lower the dose then. Ill dig out my kitchen scales in the morning. Hes already had one dose but he seems fine at the mo...

Im worried now

purple_vixen · Post by **purple_vixen** » Wed May 04, 2011 4:36 pm

I wouldn't lower the dose just yet - I remember reading that the Baytril dose can be increased (in multiples, so a high dose) for severe infection - that can be why the vet has upped the prescription. Admittedly, combination antbiotics seem more common. There's a guide here, that says for severe infection:

Baytril 10mg/lb (20 mg/kg)

.

There's a link in this thread saying that you can multiply the usual dose up to 4x, so maybe that's what the vet has done.

What does Maxi weigh?

Vix.

emma10 · Post by **emma10** » Wed May 04, 2011 4:49 pm

He's about 400g we think, and the dose is actually 0.15 (dont worry I havent actually given him1.5!!)

theres another thread here http://www.fancy-rats.co.uk/community/v ... 4&t=153456 where I was asking about dose/weight etc.

Sorry for the confusion

I guess this can be locked now.

sati18 · Post by **sati18** » Wed May 04, 2011 4:54 pm

Hey Emma,

just to say his dose should be 0.2 ml twice a day of baytril.and i would also agree that doxycycline should be given in combination with the baytril, plus metacam as that reduces any inflammation in the lungs and makes them more comfortable.

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