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meet Sagwa. my new siamese?

Post by Shawna » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:14 pm

ok this is a serious thud matter. she is just too too cute!
doe is a siamese with very dark markings and buck is a dumbo berkshire
13 eepers in all. 7 males (4 dumbo berkies, 1 standard berkshire and 2 siamese standard eared) and 6 females (2 siamese, 1 cream dumbo and 1 dumbo berkie, 2 standard berkies)

sagwas points are very light. she has a cream hood, with the slighty darker mask, feet and rump of a siamese. Im just not sure as to what her pionts are..is she a flame point? seal point? im not to sure on the varieties so i thought i would ask the experts. are siamese supposed to have red eyes as well? she does... here are a couple pics. (sorry they're not very good ..she wont stay still long enough for a close up..lol)

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let me know what you think...

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Post by LisaLQ » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:45 pm

She looks like a regular marked siamese (probably seal point) to me. They're very common in pet shops and rescues, as most reputable breeders dont breed for them as they're unstandardised (well, unless they're shown under hooded) and therefore not worth showing.

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Post by csi » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:54 pm

seeing as the OP is in Canada though Lisa they might not be as common as over here

she is very beautiful but as lisa says a capped siamese[ which here is a mismark I believe] she looks blue on my monitor though, which will always be a moot point as everyones monitor resolution is slightly different :D
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Post by Jembean » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:15 pm

what's a flame point? :oops:
it sounds hot (no pun intended)
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Post by Clarabella » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:39 pm

Flame point siamese cats have points which are reddish in colour (imagine a Cinnamon point siamese) but I didn't think they could be created in ratties.
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Post by Jembean » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:40 am

Mmmm sounds gorgeous - but no, I can't see it happening with ratties either :(
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Post by aquajen9 » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:15 pm

As far as I know flame point in Siamese rats would be silver fawn.. so would look PEW.. :lol:
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Post by Jembean » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:05 pm

BOOOO.
I assume topaz-points are really pale as well?
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Post by aquajen9 » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:11 pm

Jembean wrote:BOOOO.
I assume topaz-points are really pale as well?


I'd have thought so. Anything paler than Russian Silver/Russian Dove seems to end up a bit silly really.
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Re: meet Sagwa. my new siamese?

Post by Shawna » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:56 am

so....she is just a regular siamese? lol oh boy! i really just was curious and wanted to know what kind (if possible to find out) point she was...lol silly me...i just love to learn all about the ratty world.
i dont really care what point she is...lol i just cant get over how simply adorable she is! :lol:

*afterthought* will the points darken as she ages? and what are the possibilties of her having dumbos? (theres a few dumbo siblings in her litter) whats the likelyhood of her having dumbo siamese kittens (eepers?) not that im going to breed her right away but i was thinking that when she got older i MIGHT breed her with one of my berkshire males...and thats a big MIGHT! lol just more or less curiosity on my part.
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Re: meet Sagwa. my new siamese?

Post by csi » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:43 am

well if there were dumbos in the same litter as her, then she would carry it [ i think] so to produce more dumbos you would have to mate her to either a dumbo male or a carrier male [i think]
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Post by Blue Eyed Girl » Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:52 am

:love: She's a beautiful girl :love:
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Post by Ceslater » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:33 am

she is really gorgeous. very sweet
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