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Baytril injections - survey, please contribute

Post by Midnight Rose » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:00 pm

With regards to this topic I'm making this sticky.

I want to do a study of our rats to see how many rats you have owned that reacted to baytril being injected. I want to know because my experience of baytril injections is very negative, but this experience isn't reflected by everyone, so I could very well be wrong. Therefore I want to be able to see what proportion of rats have developed a burn in the past.

The definition of a baytril burn for this study will be a scab of any size that is bigger than the needle that injected the baytril (ie. not a tiny scab left by the needle but anything bigger than that), a burn of any size where the skin is raw and possibly weeping or black skin/scab of any size.

If any of your rats have had more than one baytril injection and reacted on more than one occasion it is to be counted as one rat and one reaction. I just want to know how many rats reacted, not how many reaction you have experienced. Maybe that is for a later study! The reason I decided to do this is because most people would have to guess how many baytril injections their rats have had in total and guessing isn't all that accurate.

So I want to know how many:


Rats that have been injected with undiluted baytril:
How many of those rats developed a burn:

Rats that were injected with diluted baytril:
The dilution factor of the baytril (eg. times 10) :
How many of those rats developed a burn:

Burns that got infected:

Thanks very much to all those that take part
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Post by Midnight Rose » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:02 pm

Rats that have been injected with undiluted baytril: 22
How many of those rats developed a burn: 21

Rats that were injected with diluted baytril: 6
The dilution factor of the baytril (eg. times 10) : x 10
How many of those rats developed a burn: 0

Burns that got infected: 1
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Post by carot35 » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:04 pm

Im not asure if Jabba had diluted or not but he got a burn as when we saw it we were very worried. He had one on his back between his shoulders and was a lucky one that he didnt pull his scab off and it didnt get infected but he had a big scab

If it was one injection it probably wasn't diluted.

Rats that have been injected with undiluted baytril: 1
How many of those rats developed a burn: 1

Rats that were injected with diluted baytril: 0
The dilution factor of the baytril (eg. times 10) : 0
How many of those rats developed a burn: 0

Burns that got infected: 0

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Post by Razz » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:13 pm

Assuming Newt's injection was undiluted as it was just one dose.

Rats that have been injected with undiluted baytril: 1
How many of those rats developed a burn: 1

Rats that were injected with diluted baytril: 0
The dilution factor of the baytril (eg. times 10) : n/a
How many of those rats developed a burn: n/a

Burns that got infected: 0

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Post by ashleanne » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:33 pm

Rats injected with undiluted baytril 2
Rats that got baytril burn 2
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Post by Morgawse » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:50 pm

I don't know if the Baytril was diluted or not, but in all cases it was just one injection so I'm assuming it wasn't.

Rats that have been injected with undiluted baytril: 4
How many of those rats developed a burn:0

Burns that got infected: 0


Does this mean I've been incredibly lucky, or my vet is doing something right that others aren't? I know chemical burns in humans can occur if a drug is injected into the tissue rather than into the bloodstream - what is the problem with baytril causing burns, the actual substance or where it ends up?
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Re: How many of your rats got a baytril burn?

Post by Julie84 » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:54 pm

Rats that have been injected with undiluted baytril: 1
How many of those rats developed a burn: 0

Rats that were injected with diluted baytril: 0
The dilution factor of the baytril (eg. times 10) : n/a
How many of those rats developed a burn: n/a

Burns that got infected: n/a
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Post by Midnight Rose » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:32 pm

Morgawse wrote:Does this mean I've been incredibly lucky, or my vet is doing something right that others aren't? I know chemical burns in humans can occur if a drug is injected into the tissue rather than into the bloodstream - what is the problem with baytril causing burns, the actual substance or where it ends up?
(sorry, just curious...)


Just under the skin and between the shoulder blades seems to produce more burns.

So either your rat didn't react or the injection went deeper :)
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Post by acapae_wolf » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:41 pm

Rats that have been injected with undiluted baytril: 3 (but one of them had an injection every day for a week [in mum's care] so i don't know what that counts as)
How many of those rats developed a burn: 2

Rats that were injected with diluted baytril: 0
The dilution factor of the baytril (eg. times 10) : 0
How many of those rats developed a burn: 0

Burns that got infected: 1 (the one in context above)
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Post by ixy » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:52 pm

Rats that have been injected with undiluted baytril: 5
How many of those rats developed a burn: 2

Rats that were injected with diluted baytril: 0
The dilution factor of the baytril (eg. times 10) : n/a
How many of those rats developed a burn: n/a

Burns that got infected: 0
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Post by rach » Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:49 pm

Rats that have been injected with undiluted baytril: 1
How many of those rats developed a burn: 0

Rats that were injected with diluted baytril: 0
The dilution factor of the baytril (eg. times 10) : n/a
How many of those rats developed a burn: n/a

Burns that got infected: n/a

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Post by alpaca49 » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:00 pm

rats that have had undiluted baytril 3
rats that have had baytril burns 3

none got infected.

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Post by emma_j » Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:04 pm

I've never inflicted a baytril injection on my own rats thank goodness. It doesn't really help your poll, but I've seen enough baytril burns in practice to put me off ever using it once I qualify - there's just no need, you can give it orally or use marbocyl if theres a reason you have to inject.
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Post by beth780 » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:22 pm

rats that have been injected with baytril - 2

Rat 1 was injected between shoulder blades, Rat 2 was injected in side opposite to operation site. Both got bad baytril burns that took about 1 month to clear up.

First rat injected by instore vets at P@H before we knew better.

Second rat was injected as a preventative after a lumpectomy. If I'd known they were going to inject baytril I'd have stopped them and given it orally as the rat was a very easy one to medicate.

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Post by Midnight Rose » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:34 pm

Thanks everyone so far but 43 data does not a good stats test make!

Come on other peeps, give me your data :lol:
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